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Kylian Mbappe celebrates after scoring a goal for Paris Saint-Germain in Champions League play against Borussia Dortmund on Dec. 13. 😆 (Martin Meissner / Associated Press)

For more than a decade Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi have been at the center of 😆 a fierce and largely unsettled debate over who is the greatest player in soccer history.

A decade from now, they might 😆 still be part of that debate. Only the question then may be more like “who were those two guys who 😆 came before Kylian Mbappe and Erling Haaland?”

That might sound like a bit of a stretch, but consider the evidence.

Ronaldo, 38, 😆 and Messi, 36, rewrote the record books, redefined greatness and took the sport to new plateaus. Soccer is more popular, 😆 more profitable and better-played than at any point in its history, and Ronaldo and Messi, who defined an era if 😆 not an entire sport, are big reasons why.

Playing much of their careers against one another in Spain’s La Liga — 😆 Messi for Barcelona and Ronaldo for Real Madrid — they pushed one another, combining for 19 league championships, four Champions 😆 League titles and 13 Ballon d’Or awards, achieving levels of greatness together neither could have reached alone.

Yet at comparable points 😆 in their careers, Mbappe and Haaland have been even better. And it’s not beyond reason to think they could stay 😆 there.

Start with the numbers. Portugal’s Ronaldo is the most prolific scorer in history with 870 goals for five clubs — 😆 Sporting CP, Manchester United, Juventus and Al Nassr, in addition to Real Madrid — and country. Messi, an Argentine who 😆 played at Paris Saint-Germain and Inter Miami after leaving Barcelona, has 821 goals while the once-incomparable Pele is a distant 😆 third at 762, according to the Zurich-based International Federation of Football History and Statistics.

Ronaldo and Messi also rank in the 😆 top 10 all-time in assists, meaning each has contributed to more than 1,110 goals in their careers.

Mbappe and Haaland are 😆 on pace to outproduce both. Less than a week past his 25th birthday, Mbappe already has 306 goals and 127 😆 assists, according to Football365, more than either Messi or Ronaldo had at the same age. Haaland, who won’t turn 24 😆 until next summer, has 232 goals for club and country, is also better than Messi and Ronaldo at the same 😆 age.

Manchester City's Erling Haaland, right, tries to control the ball while defended by Aston Villa's Pau Torres during an English 😆 Premier League game on Dec. 6. (Rui Vieira / Associated Press)

Messi and Ronaldo were just getting started, though. In his 😆 age-24 season, 2011-12, Messi scored a record 73 goals in 60 games for Barcelona, beginning a string that would see 😆 him average more than 54 club goals a season over six years. Ronaldo was just one goal a season behind 😆 during that span — then went on to score more than 400 times after turning 30.

Can Mbappe and Haaland match 😆 that? Why not? They are just entering their prime.

Numbers don’t tell the whole story, however; it’s what those numbers add 😆 up to that really determines greatness.

As a 17-year-old Mbappe led Monaco to the Ligue 1 title and the Champions League 😆 semifinals. He won five more French titles in six seasons at Paris Saint-Germain — two alongside Messi — and reached 😆 the Champions League semis twice. On the international level he’s already played in two World Cup finals, winning one. He 😆 also led the 2024 tournament in scoring with eight goals and tied for second in 2024 with four.

Only five players 😆 in history have scored more World Cup goals and only one man has played in more finals than Mbappe. Did 😆 we mention he’s just 25?

Messi had won five La Liga titles and three Champions League crowns before his 25th birthday 😆 but it took him 17 years to reach his second World Cup final and win his only title. There could 😆 be more to come Mbappe: Playing on a French team ranked second in the world in an era when the 😆 World Cup is expanding, he could wind up being the most dominant player in tournament history.

"Messi has done what he 😆 has done throughout his career and over so many years and he is fantastic. He has been the best for 😆 several years," Fabio Capello, who won seven league championships and a Champions League title as a coach, said last spring 😆 at the end of the final European season to feature either Messi or Ronaldo. "But at the moment Mbappe is 😆 better. He's strong, he's quick, he scores goals.”

Like Messi, Mbappe is a brilliant passer who can score himself — he’s 😆 on pace for his sixth straight 30-goal season and sixth straight league scoring title — or set up teammates — 😆 two years ago, he led the league in goals and assists, his 17 helpers the most in a French season 😆 in six years.

Read more: Commentary: MLS made a colossal mistake to drop U.S. Open Cup. How does the league not 😆 get that?

Inexplicably Mbappe, the youngest player ever nominated for a Ballon d’Or, has never won soccer’s top individual prize, finishing 😆 as high as third in the voting just once. That was this year, when Messi claimed the prize for a 😆 record eighth time.

Haaland, second in the Ballon d’Or balloting, has seen his brilliance so far confined to his club career. 😆 Last season, his first in the Premier League following two seasons in Norway and three others shared between the Austrian 😆 and German Bundesligas, Haaland guided Manchester City to a European treble, scoring 52 times in 53 matches. He already has 😆 19 goals in 22 appearances in all competitions this season, trailing Mbappe, who has two more goals in the same 😆 number of games. Over his last four full seasons, Haaland has scored 178 club goals in 179 appearances.

But Norway, his 😆 national team, hasn’t played in a World Cup this century and made its only appearance in the European Championship a 😆 month before Haaland was born. As a result, he’s played just 29 times for his country, scoring 27 goals. Mbappe 😆 has played more than twice as often for France, scoring 46 times, according to the German website Transfermarkt.

Manchester City coach 😆 Pep Guardiola, who managed Messi in Barcelona and now has Haaland in England, calls Messi the “most complete player I’ve 😆 ever seen, in vision, in passes, in dribbling, in competitiveness. That makes it difficult [to compare] with anyone.”

“Hopefully Erling can 😆 be close like Leo,” he added. “It will be great for us, for the future of the team. But I 😆 don’t help anyone by comparing to the Argentine player.”

Can Mbappe and Haaland continue at this pace? In a word, yeah.

Staying 😆 free of injury will be important. Messi has played fewer than 36 games just once in the last 17 years. 😆 The last time Ronaldo played fewer than 31 games in a season he was a teenager in Portugal. The continued 😆 expansion of club and national team calendars will be both an opportunity and a danger for Mbappe and Haaland; an 😆 opportunity because more games means more chances to score and more titles to win but a danger because it raises 😆 the possibility of injury. Haaland, a physical beast at 6-foot-4 and 194 pounds, seems especially well-suited to handle the additional 😆 workload.

Messi and Ronaldo have set the bar high, but it’s a height both Mbappe and Haaland might someday clear.

⚽ You 😆 have read the latest installment of On Soccer with Kevin Baxter. The weekly column takes you behind the scenes and 😆 shines a spotlight on unique stories. Listen to Baxter on this week’s episode of the Corner of the Galaxy podcast.

This 😆 story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.

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